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The Roots of Reform

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Jan 04, 2010
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Does Church Have Prophetic Voice?
by: Dennis

Thank you for your response, Russ. Could you elaborate a little further with a response to these questions.

1) Granting that an unbiblical alliance of church and state can lead to tyranny, is taking action to separate church & state justification for separating God & state by setting up a secular government divorced from the law of God?

2) Granting that training fathers to lead in the home is the foundation of reform, are church leaders not still obligated to be a "prophetic voice" in calling civil leaders to obey the law of God?

Jan 04, 2010
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by: Russ

1) ...is taking action to separate church & state justification for separating God & state by setting up a secular government divorced from the law of God?

We simply need to define God first. "God is love" From God comes the Truth about love--love of virtue, wisdom, and justice and love of family friends, and neighbors. The Truth in the Bible defines virtue, wisdom, justice, and love. It also defines God's roles for men, women, and government.

With the above in mind, what fool would want to separate God from government? The problem is, the unrepentent cannot grasp and process all of the information that is contained in the Bible because the truth convicts them of being born ignorant and following their own rules for life according to their own desires. The unrepentant seek to throw off the constraints of God, Ps 2. Christians have allowed the unrepentent to take over U.S. government. With America's Christian heritage, the church is the same as the unchurched--having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof. Clergy has failed to equip the laymen with discernment and failed to empower fathers to do the role God has given them.

A government administered by the unregenerate is a government separated from God.

2)...are church leaders not still obligated to be a "prophetic voice" in calling civil leaders to obey the law of God?

They are absolutely responsible for pointing out sin and injustice--thus giving laymen and "those who govern" the discernment they need. Why aren't clergy pointing out that government programs enable and reward ignorance and sin? Welfare makes fathers unneeded. Family courts reward an adulterous wife with custody and child support while punishing the father who was not at fault and did not break the marriage vows.
Government is not God and government charity is not love. Undermining the family and "honor thy father and mother" (with social security program) is lethal.

Basically, the restraints of the constitution have been disregarded. Without competent clergy, the constraints of the Articles of Confederation would have been disregarded as well.

God "within you" is the answer. We need to make desciples of fathers, mothers, teachers, lawyers, judges, and politicians...

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